Is Russian economy are success?what kind of policy towards Russia USA has to undertake today ? What candidate in 2008 will be capable to deal with Russia properly?

Is Russian economy are success

I am answering on very interesting posting by Dr Bulldog ( read the posting) :“In a Capitalist Democratic economy, the President is rarely responsible for the success or failure of the country’s market economy, as the citizens are the primary motivating force behind the economy (even though the politicians would have you believe otherwise when they are running for office). However, in a Totalitarian Society, by definition the Leader and his co-horts are active participants in that country’s economic gains and losses. “

I do agree with that but I think if you know that ” Putin is in the process of consolidating power in Russia” we have to keep in mind that ;

1. it is easier for ruler to manage totalitarian state than democracy so you do not have to be a genius to rule economy by totalitarian means , however it is super intellectual task to manage economy of democratic state. So I would say it is apple and oranges we cannot compare both

2. Putin was the one who managed transition from democracy to totalitarism . And it is a will of Russian people by the way to be economically safe if even democracy has to abandoned. So his economic success is a price for lost democracy. May be it is a fair price, may be he was right to do what he did but you cannot judge him on economic achievement only, you have take in consideration the price he paid for these achievement and namely making the Russia a totalitarian state one more time again

3. I am not sure that we understand each other talking about economic success . Russia is the only country in the world which

3.1. 3 times during 20^th century started new state

3.2. survived 2000% ( two thousands %) inflation during last 2 decades,

3.3.declared default and still has issues with paying Russian tsar debts.

So, with taking that democracy in Russia was traded in economic prosperity ,that Russia today is a totalitarian state , that totalitarian economy is easy to manage ,is what happening economically in Russia really a success?

It is surviving but it still has economy about of half of Italian economy . With all its treasurers like oil and gas and nickel and …. many other things in the soil it still less than Italy economically???? With sacrificed democracy for the sake of order and prosperity it still what it is? I think for Russians themselves it will be humiliating to call it success.

4. The USA in part is responsible for Russian lost democracy : I think neglecting Russia after collapse of USSR was a mistake equal and similar to neglecting Afghanistan after kicking soviets out of Afghanistan. In one case we got Taliban and bin laden as liability for neglect in another we got Mr. Putin who is essentially Russian Taliban. ) In the early 90s late 80s perception of US was very favorable in Russia until “Gore/ Chernomirdin” commission under supervision of Al Gore started pump blindly money into Russian economy ( read mafia) , until US bombed Belgrade and choose to support every single anti Russian move of former Russian satellites.

I guess the right question is: knowing what we know about Russia what kind of policy towards Russia USA has to undertake today ? What candidate in 2008 will be capable to deal with Russia properly?

Bush and Putin project a united front? Too good to be true?

“President Bush and Russian President Vladimir Putin projected a united front Monday against Iran’s suspected nuclear weapons program.” (read)

Considering that according to this “when addressing All-Russia’s Conference of Public Science Professors, President Vladimir Putin cautioned against allowing to inflict the feeling of guilt on Russia”, it is hard to predict what is good relations with USA in Russian terms. However, on the record Putin “ said that democracy will be the method of Russia’s state organization,”

If indeed Russia and USA will find some common denominator in politics, it will change the world as we speak.

Alliance of Russia and USA is possible and rewarding for both sides, however, it is hard to predict how deeply anti–American sentiment corroded psyche of Russian people. Years of anti-American propaganda sponsored by the state shaped already a generation of young Russians who grew up with the idea that USA is the enemy. The input of USA in building of understanding between Russia and USA may be even less impressive. So, the question is: even if leaders want to join their efforts, are people of Russia and USA really ready for that?

Maybe both countries proved to themselves that they cannot accomplish too much one without the other?

Maybe some poor Czechoslovakia was sacrificed yesterday?

Putin and Russia today

I got a wonderful comment on my previous posting by doctorbulldog and I was so interested with the article that I want to comment on it in a separate posting. I do not agree with some aspects of the posting by doctorbulldog and I am commenting below on the points which I think are different form how I see it but I definitely agree with general line of thinking by doctorbulldog:

doctorbulldog “One must unabashedly concede that Putin has accomplished a remarkable feat in revitalizing the sagging Russian economy by emendating and implementing the old school Soviet program of brinkmanship.”

2008 voter: “I would not give that much of credit to Putting for that , mostly for price of oil. If he would manage to boost Russian economy with oil $30 for barrel I would be impressed, otherwise it is more like a luck to be in right time in the right place.”

doctorbulldog “the younger generation of Russians (those who were not yet born during Soviet rule) are fanatical in their support of Putin. They have no idea of how evil he truly is, as most of the news that they listen to is extremely pro-Putin. Of course, it helps that Putin controls all of the major television news services in Russia, along with most of the radio stations. As for the newspapers, he just has the reporters mysteriously killed whenever they begin to question his policies. This is also an essential part of brinkmanship, as it enables the Kremlin to control public perception in Russia, thus maintaining governmental stability while engaging in questionable politics.”

2008 voter:Unfortunately success of this indoctrination was in large secured by American policy toward Russia during 90( or rather lack of any coherent policy) In the early 90s late 80s perception of US was very favorable in Russia until “Gore/ Chernomirdin” commission under supervision of Al Gore started pump blindly money into Russian economy ( read mafia) , until US bombed Belgrade and choose to support every single anti Russian move of former Russian satellites.

The public perception of Russia driven by “experts” and ignorant US media was grossly humiliating toward Russians and was basing on the amazingly stupid and obviously wrong perception that Russians are finished.

doctorbulldog “And, therein lies the crux of the problem. Putin controls the minds of the Russian youth through rigid regulation of the Russian media, just as Hamas is manipulating the minds of impressionable Palestinian children in preparing them for Jihad against Israel. “

2008 voter: Commonalities between Hamas and Russia are obvious this is why they such close friends. But please do not overlook the differences: Russia has no ideology today. It is essentially mafia state were AL Capone ( read Putin) first was assigned to the state ruling post and them after easy manipulations with criminal oppression of all opposition was “ elected” by those who survived his ruling before elections.

Hamas are Islamo-fascist ideologists. Putin is just a crook and he thinks as a crook. Interesting thing is that hamas in long term is a bigger danger for Russia than USA unless Putin’s crooks and ruled mass are considering Islam as a state religion in close future.

Russia is the best friend of Hamas !!We will see very soon how Hamas and Russia together will rule the world !!!

It is a common fact that Russia’s ” position on Hamas is different from that of the United States and Western Europe,” (source) at least it is what Putin said, speaking back then at the annual news conference in the Kremlin in 2006. Knowing that Putin owns Russia there is no reason do doubt that what Putin thinks is what Russia does. So, knowing that “the Russian Foreign Ministry has never regarded Hamas as a terrorist organization. ” (source) it was not a big surprise that Russians are thinking that Hamas is entitled for Russian help . Why ? Because!!!

Officially it is because these Russians are thinking that “the ‘divide and conquer policy’ is not helping to solve the conflict,” ( source )

But is it not precisely what Russia is doing ? Dividing and conquering ? Supporting terrorists in order to sell more weapons ??? Russia without war is like France without fashion . So Russians are trying to support ANY war, especially if it is any chance to kill Jews ( historically it is a very honorable activity in Russia) and to make a damage to the USA (Putin needs an enemy to maintain his dictatorship after all)

According to Russian officials they still “ recognize President Abbas and the government he has formed,” but in the same time they ” cannot ignore the fact that more than half of the seats in the legitimately elected parliament belong to Hamas.”(source)

 

So what? According to Russians by winning the elections Hamas got a mandate to kill Fattah?

In any way , since when Russians are so respectful to a parliament ? Russians successfully did shoot its own parliament using tanks in 1994. Today they did reverse their sympathy and they are essentially legitimizing the killing of a presidents’ people by parliament ?

Russians really have a very twisted logic : according to Russia blog ( see the source at http://www.russiablog.org/2006/02/why_putin_invites_hamas_to_mos.php ) “The Russian part of the global war that touches everyone, including Americans, never gets reported in any depth. Maybe that’s why the Westerners have a difficult time understanding why Putin has invited Hamas leaders to Moscow.”

So, help me understand, the presumable failure of Americans to recognize the input of Russians in the war on terror did force Russians ….to support terror? Very creative !!!

But you just wait, the guy just claimed that Russia owns ….”the North Pole – and all its gas, oil, and diamonds” read it !!!

Believe me it is just a beginning!!! We will see very soon how Hamas and Russia together will rule the world !!!

morons from Hamas just killed the stolen Mickey Mouse.

If it is not a metaphor of intellectual impotence of Muslim terrorism then what it is?

It is not enough to these morons from Hamas to recruit Mickey Mouse to reinforce their weakening power ( obviously they were incapable to invent anything, so they just doomed to destroy other peoples’ inventions) so, they … killed the poor creature !!!

“In the final skit, “Farfour” was killed by an actor posing as an Israeli official trying to buy Farfour’s land. At one point, the mouse called the Israeli a “terrorist” read this shit if you want to

If it is not no a total intellectual degradation ,then what is that ??

“”Farfour was martyred while defending his land,” said Sara, the teen presenter. He was killed “by the killers of children,” she added.”

read this shit again if you wnat to

I do not know about Israelis being killers of children but what I know now is that Hamas is definitely is a killer of the stolen Mickey Mouse.

What is the most amusing in all this surrealistic story is  that in the same time “Khaled Meshaal, the political head of the Islamic resistance movement Hamas, has said that dialogue is the only solution to the current Palestinian crisis.” read this shit

Hey , come on ,,,,, you just killed the Mickey Mouse and you want a peace? Negotiate your peace with Tom and Jerry!!!

Coulter versus Edwards : in the light of the fairness doctrine

Summarizing my overview of blog postings dedicated to Coulter versus Edwards incident I would like to offer my conclusions:

1. a set up arranged by Mathews. This guy ambushed Coulter with Edwards waiting on the side to be unleashed on Coulter .
2. when candidate on the USA president’s position (or his wife a would be first lady ) asking a voter to stop personal attacks it looks strange. it is like person who is running for an office is reprimanding a voter for not being nice with a candidate .
It reminds me of Stalin style personal cult when nobody can do anything but express admiration to person of a leader.

I think that people like Coulter making more harm that good in the voting process. Our society is polarized enough to not exacerbate this polarization. But in the same time it is obvious to me that
1. similar to Coulter figures on the left are not getting the same amount of concern as she does, in opposite they are cheered by the same people who are blaming Coulter
2. Coulter has a right to do what she does
3. Coulter was set up, so in this sense Elisabeth was not asking her to stop the personal attacks but Elisabeth committed conspiracy with Mathews, arranged a Springer style circus with ambush attack which shows Elisabeth’s moral weakness
4. Funniest thing is that all over left blogs Coulter getting a barrage of the most possible vulgar and the lowest possible profane language in Coulter’s address and in the same time Coulter is blamed for being vulgar, which is pure hipocracy on the left bloggers account.
Me personally I think that “idea” of two Americas is a hate speech on much bigger scale I comparison with anything coulter did. When poor are learning how to hate rich and one America is set against another America for the sake of getting the power for Edwards.

in the light of fairness doctrine it shows how democrats will treat fairness in the issues of a free speech.

what Mexicans themselves are doing with their illegals?

If this bill would not be killed, then the USA would be doomed to do by this bill with its own illegals the opposite to what Mexicans themselves are doing with their illegals .

The point is that what the USA is doomed to do by this bill with its own illigals is opposite to what Mexicans themselves are doing with their illigals . Read the Memo From Mexico, By Allan Wall titled the “More Hypocrisy: How Mexico Handles Its Own Illegal Immigration”
Read this :
“the Mexican government mistreats ‘indocumentados’ that cross its territory, it keeps them in jails, in overcrowded conditions, many times without food, without medical attention and overall, violating their human rights.”
Mauricio Farath, another CNDH official, reported that in some Mexican states, Central Americans “go to the municipal jails, where they stay for days and weeks. In some small rooms there are dozens of them and they do not separate the men and the women.” [CNDH: Aquí se criminaliza a los ilegales, Victor Ballinas Enviado, December 21st, 2005]
And so on, and etc.
So Mexican are demanding that the USA would leave Mexico wishes and themselves would be free to ignore the rules they want to impose on the USA?

Hypocrisy of Elisabeth Edwards and Chris Mathews is beyond imaginable.

Hypocrisy of Elisabeth Edwards and Chris Mathews is beyond imaginable.

Edwards is running for office and as a politician who is running he has

1. obligations to play by the rules
2. no expectations that voters who do not like him will be nice to him.

If Elisabeth Edwards already today is trying to shut opponents up, can you imagine what she would do if she would be a first lady? ( fortunately it is obviously not going to happen)

 

“On MSNBC, Elizabeth Edwards asked Coulter to stop making personal attacks, saying “it lowers our political dialogue precisely at the time that we need to raise it.”(ABC News)

 

Why Coulter has to restrain herself in any way?

 

Coulter is a voter and your husband is going to be a president. Coulter is definitely not your constituency but it gives you no right to use Chris Mathews’s ambush to shut up your opponent. This is not Venezuela and not Russia. Wake up Elisabeth, this is the USA and this is the election time. You came into running voluntarily so stop complaining. Are you trying to cry your way to the White House? If so, Coulter is right. If not. then shut up and at least pretend that you are serious about this campaign.

Me personally I think that “idea” of two Americas is a hate speech when poor are learning how to hate rich and one America is set against another America for the sake of getting the power for Edwards

Coulter is a private person who has no obligations whatsoever to be polite . It may be wrong what she is saying but it is many times more wrong to shut her up by would be first lady. Coulter has rights to say what she said . Period. You do not like it? Deal with that or quit your campaign , but do not lecture a voter on how to react to your candidacy.

I knew that Chris Mathews is a very narrow minded sleazy partisan demagogue. But what he did is beneath even this guy. To invite Coulter to unleash Elisabeth Edwards waiting on a side? Besides that is it ridiculous, it is unethical. Unlike Coulter who as a private person is not limited by any rules other than constitution, this guy consider himself a professional political journalist. To pull stunt like that shows him for who he is indeed- a partisan clown